This is going to be long, so for those not interested in a long read, best you move on from this rant.
I met Bishop Carrey Oliver for the first time early on the morning of the 19th July, when my husband and myself picked him up from Tullamarine airport in Melbourne, Australia.
Now just setting the scene a little bit…..
+Carrey had been communicating and studying with The Presiding Archbishop of the Australian Church of Antioch, The Most Reverend Frank Bugge, for quite a while before I knew he existed. He had also been communicating and studying with Archbishop Glenn Clark, the Dean of St. Michael’s Divinity School.
I can’t totally remember when I first came across +Carrey. Maybe 6 months ago. It was on facebook on a religious group somewhere, not important. This is about when I found out he was already affiliated in some way with the Australian Church of Antioch.
We began to communicate with one another and by the time he arrived here in Melbourne for his ordination in July, we were on daily email basis with one another. We discussed many things. Personal, professional, Church, Theology, Gnostic, Esoteric, too many subjects to list here.
Did I get to know this man Bishop Carrey Oliver in that time? …….yes I think I did.
Did I get to know him more in the week I spent with him here in Melbourne before going back home to Sabah? …….yes I think I did.
While here in Melbourne +Carrey was raised to the Episcopate. I won’t go into all the details here, but for those interested in the details of how that came about you can find that information on either of the following two websites. www.australianchurchofantioch.com or www.stbernadetteofantioch.org
After Bishop Carrey’s consecration this is what I posted on facebook….
Well people I have to tell you this. Today I experienced something I have never experienced before and maybe I never will again. I have now been present at 3 Consecrations to Bishop and many other levels of Clergy so although few in number, I have experienced them. Now if any one says that when someone is Ordained or Consecrated it is only symbolic and that really nothing happens they are so totally wrong, so very totally wrong. I already know and feel the energies during the Eucharist etc so it is nothing new to me, and to those that say they feel nothing...I say to you then among other things maybe you either have not been ordained by the right person or correctly or you are doing things in the wrong way. Every single one of our Clergy feel these energies, an example is when consecrating the Host we feel it in our hands. Today the energies were amazing, overwhelming almost and very real. There was no doubt in anyone's mind today that something very special happened with the Consecration of Bp Carrey Oliver. The humbleness of this man is to be seen and felt. I tell you now this man The Right Rev Carrey Oliver will do great things in North Borneo. He will be carrying back with him at least I think from memory 19 lines of true and valid Apostolic Succession. He will also be the ONLY Bishop in Malaysia that now carries true and I say true and unbroken Apostolic Female lines. If you don't believe me, I say to you.....Check back with me in a couple of years and tell me it is not so!!! Blessings……
So to ask me did this man impress me? …….In every sense of the word…..yes he did. He still does till this day.
Now sometimes in life you can’t think past the fairytale ending to this story.
…..Bishop Carrey goes back home and spreads the word of God, Love, Peace & Harmony. Is that how you expected the story to go? No such way…….. And what do you think has caused this fairytale to be shattered?
First before I start, I mean no hurt or disrespect to those Roman Catholics on my friends list. I am only telling the story as it is, so all can draw their own conclusion as to what is fair and not fair.
None other than the Roman Catholic Church and the narrow minded bigoted blind followers who see nothing beyond their own noses and what their so called Preachers of the faith (Clergy) brainwash them with! Preachers of the faith? What faith? That no one else can exist, live, move or have their own being outside of the Roman Catholic Church. What sort of Christianity is that? Where is the peace and harmony in that? Doesn’t exist from where I stand.
Following is an excerpt from a letter sent around to all and sundry and posted on facebook…..
……Catholics in the Archdiocese are not to associate themselves in any program and/or activity initiated and conducted by Carrey Oliver Yubong and his Antioch Mission.
In this year of Faith, may this incident urgently remind us to pray fervently and to uphold firmly the unity within the Catholic Church in the Archdiocese of Kota Kinabulu and all over the world……..
Now I find a few things interesting here.
- Not to associate with +Carrey? Hhhhmmmm. Bishop Carrey is “magical with music” and as I understand it, has given much of his time, free of charge over the years to the choirs of the Roman Catholic Church. Was obviously okay to accept this gift from him before?
- Being told who and who not to associate with by a Church? Are they the Law?
- Bearing in mind, they are only wanting no association with him not because he is a bad person but simply because he didn’t decide to be ordained with them. He decided to NOT become a Roman Catholic Priest. They of course will revoke all if he denounces the Australian Church of Antioch and becomes Roman. Aahh? Isn’t that blackmail??? I am no legal eagle, but sounds something like it to me.
- “In this year of Faith…….uphold firmly the unity of the Catholic Church”. WHAT ABOUT UNITY IN THE WORLD?!! I don’t think our Church has ever just prayed or asked for unity within our own Church. We ask and pray for unity within ALL THE Churches, Religions, Traditions, Cultures, Races and all those others I have forgotten and ask and pray for unity WITHIN THE WORLD!! DOESN’T ANYONE GET IT?
Now Fabian P. Kating also commented on his post…….I've heard about the Church of Antioch, but Australian Church of Antioch is quite new to me. This church is quite new. I don't know whether we should call it as a denomination or a Sect/Cult……
I think there are enough Clergy and Churches & Groups around the world who know of the Australian Church of Antioch, and can definitely vouch for the authenticity, lineage & Apostolic Succession of members of Clergy and the integrity & knowledge of the Presiding Archbishop, The Most Reverend Frank Bugge.
For those wanting to know our origins……
THE ORIGINS OF THE CHURCH OF ANTIOCH
by Archbishop F Bugge
For the beginnings of The Australian Church of Antioch, we must go back to Antioch in Syria to the year 503BC. It was at this time that some of the followers of Zoroaster who were more enlightened than most, were instructed by Darius, the Persian ruler who at that time was in power to start the Church in Antioch which at that time was part of Syria. These wise people knew that The Christ was coming and a place was necessary for the work of God to be carried out. It also gave the necessary time to elapse before the Master Jesus was born, and therefore the multitudes did not know there was a connection between Antioch and Jesus, thus the church was left in peace to be there when necessary.
Jesus was quite aware of all this and he visited every one of the places that would start up a church in his name, and quite a few other places as well. This accounts for all those years between his boyhood and the beginning of his ministry.
It was in early 38AD after the death of Jesus, that Peter, Paul, and Thomas went to Antioch and converted that church following The Christ. This was the first church to become known as Christian.
Later on in that same year of 38AD, Joseph of Arimithea went to Glastenbury in England. Near the site of the future church, he drove his wooden staff into the ground, and according to historians this staff took root and grew into a tree. A cutting from this tree was planted nearby which still exists to this day. Thus was the true beginning of the Original Anglican Church.
It was years later that Peter, Paul and Thomas went to Rome and started the Roman Church. It is perfectly obvious that Antioch was the first Christian church, Anglican the second, and the Roman church last. The Roman Church denies this claiming to be the original church, but the Romans ruling the church came only with the might of the Roman Army to enforce it when the Roman Caesar decided to become Christian. The Coptic Church of Egypt that was started by the Apostle Mark approx 40-60 AD, was also ground down under the heel of the Roman army’s empire until they broke away again centuries later.
The Irish and the welsh Celtic Churches were an offshoot of the original Anglican church, which at that time were called the Culdees, and they resisted successfully the roman domination by hiding and meeting in secret for many years.
It is from these three lines of succession that the apostolic lines of The Australian Church of Antioch are derived.
We give the Roman and Antioch lines in full detail, and an abbreviated list of the other routes to show how the lines have traversed to this time and thus to us on our website. www.australianchurchofantioch.com
These lines are authenticated by one and all Churches as being accurate.
© Frank Bugge 2012
For those positive comments to +Carrey and those who have supported him…. I salute you _/|\_. Namaste. May Many Blessings shower upon you for your openness and acceptance and love for what is right and wrong.
To those negative, narrow minded people, I feel so sorry for you! By not having anything to do with someone like Bishop Carrey, you will lose something so valuable you just cannot see it. There is none so blind as those that cannot see!
Judge not lest ye be judged and yes I am judging you! I judge you to be fools of the highest order in my opinion! What is it you fear? A bit of good honest competition? If you are so strong in your Faith and your beliefs shouldn’t you be strong enough to accept others in friendship & harmony, instead of obviously seeing them as some sort of threat. It is no wonder that many, many people question and have left the Roman Catholic Church. We are not back in the dim dark ages where the Churches were the law! People have a choice today. A choice to follow the faith that is closest to their own heart. Now how I see it, that is exactly what Bishop Carrey Oliver has done……followed the faith that is closest to his heart. Should he be condemned for that? I ask you!
In closing of my rant…..to The Rt Rev Bishop Carrey….I am so sorry my friend to have not stood up earlier in this matter. I allowed my own personal life to overshadow things for a bit, but I can no longer sit back and watch the persecution of you, a man I am honoured to call my friend & I know the Australian Church of Antioch is honoured to have you as Clergy.
I pray for Peace, Harmony, Unity, Understanding, Tolerance, Acceptance & every other word that comes under those categories.
Many Blessings to all no matter what your Religious beliefs, nor your race, nor sexual preference. I ENCOMPASS ALL!!
Mons Leonie Newman
Australian Church of Antioch